31HanSolo June 25, 2013 at 9:54 pm

And the interesting thing about college is: is it the actual experience of going and working hard enough to graduate that creates people that are more stable for marriage or that people who are stable for marriage also choose to go to college? I suspect it’s a bit of both.

And yes, I agree that the two SMPs are different enough to warrant separate treatment.

32queeninjun June 25, 2013 at 10:02 pm
@ Susan, there are plenty of people on the manosphere talking about the decline of the American male. I, too, see it. There is a guy I work with who is working full-time and only now getting around to earning a college degree (he’s close to 30). Maybe our society doesn’t encourage guys to pursue higher education because people don’t think that boys/men need the push to do it. Maybe people assume that men are logical, and if a man sees a logical value in pursuing a higher education that he will naturally do it.

33J June 25, 2013 at 10:05 pm
Been a long time gone, Constantinople.

That’s nobody’s business but the Turks, JP!

34J June 25, 2013 at 10:08 pm

All middle class values, including regard for education, correlate to marital stability. You eally can’t parse out any one factor.

35CrisisEraDynamo June 25, 2013 at 10:10 pm
@ queeninjun

Good to hear you found a husband you’re attracted to.

36HanSolo June 25, 2013 at 10:12 pm

And are the values inherent to the class or to the people? Meaning, if the people that would have been in the middle class no longer are do they start to drop some of those values?